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Church Myth-Busting #6(B): The Bible IS Up for DEBATE!
Pershkrimi videos:GO TO PART C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbq0tt7Kfws
• GREETING
• PURPOSE
-- This series is directed at ministers and teachers, as well as people seeking to challenge their understanding of scripture. We will be dealing with false and/or questionable teachings, beliefs and practices in the Christian church regarding the supposed "inerrancy" of "The Bible".
• POPULAR NOTIONS
-- Inspired: The Bible is inspired by God, who through the human authors is the divine author of the Bible. This is expressed in the following Bible passage (2 Timothy 3:16)
-- Inerrant: a) God is perfect, the Bible (namely the KJV), as the word of God, must also be perfect, thus, free from error, OR b) In its original form, the Bible is totally without error, and free from all contradiction (to include scientific, geographic, and historic details)
-- Infallible: What the scriptures say regarding matters of faith and Christian practice are wholly useful and true. Some denominations that teach infallibility hold that the historical or scientific details, which may be irrelevant to matters of faith and Christian practice, may contain errors.
• DISCUSSION
-- Discussion should begin with 'What is "The Bible'; Christians should be familiar with history of the Bible (canon); KJV complete with leather binding, red lettering and chapter/verse divisions, did not drop out of the sky
-- Discuss various versions, first English Translation, the "Textus Receptus", KJV, and the role of scribes (excerpts from Erdman book).
-- Christians should be prepared to acknowledge and address apparent errors and inconsistencies (give examples: adulterous woman in John 7:53-8:11, Jesus vs. Joshua in Heb 4:8, Phoebe in Rom 16:1 and Junia in Rom 16:7; "study" in 2 Tim 2:15 ); evidence shows that some changes accidental, some intentional (language or bias);
-- About Early Copyists (excerpt from Misquoting Jesus by Ehrman), http://nytnegro.angelfire.com/misquotingjesus_pg46.pdf
-- About Erasmus, the 'Textus Receptus' and the KJV (excerpt from Misquoting Jesus by Ehrman), http://nytnegro.angelfire.com/misquotingjesus_pg78.pdf
-- ABout Textual Alterations Involving Women (excerpt from Misquoting Jesus by Ehrman), http://nytnegro.angelfire.com/misquotingjesus_pg178.pdf
-- While manuscripts present problems, they are at same time compelling in making the case for authenticity of the biblical writings:
• Hank Hanegraaff - President of Christian Research Institute. Explains that scripture is "historic and evidential'. Developed M.A.P.S. methodology to evaluate reliability of the Bible:
-- Manuscripts | Archaeology | Prophecy | Statistics
• Simon Greenleaf - One of the principle founders of the Harvard Law School, originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He is distinguished as one who applied the canons of the ancient document rule to establish the authenticity of the gospel accounts, as well as cross-examination principles in assessing the testimony of those who bore witness to the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ.
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Greenleaf
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testimony_of_the_Evangelist
• Joslin "Josh" McDowell - According to McDowell, he was as an agnostic at college when he decided to prepare a paper that would examine the historical evidence of the Christian faith in order to disprove it. However, he converted to Christianity, after, as he says, he found evidence for it, not against it.
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_McDowell
• CONCLUSION -- Bible reveals God as One you can know for yourself; Abraham knew God when there was no Bible or Torah. You can have confidence in the Bible, but you are not saved by the Bible. The "FINAL AUTHORITY" is not the Bible, but Jesus Christ. Your ultimate confidence should be in God (Jesus Christ).
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The Catholics included the 'apocrypha' in its council of Trent - but even then was selective to exclude II Esdras, because 7:105of that book forbids Praying for the dead (my, how honest)! JB?????
The Baptist don't hold that the apocrypha is Scripture nor do any Protestant groups!!!
Even the Catholics consider the apocrypha only 'deutero-canonical' or secondary writings!!!
Thanks for the info!!!!!!!
But I'm sure many Catholics are Saved (not the Poop and his hinchmen, but the common folk like you and I)!!!
I did note in my post that their blessed (rolls eyes) use of the Latin phrase 'deutero-canonical' does not mean 'non-canonical when I typed:
"Even the Catholics consider the apocrypha only 'deutero-canonical' or secondary writings!!!"
But again - then they pick and choose.
Certainly there have been 'debates'/'misgivings'...
I believe God did Inspire the Scriptures, and I do believe God did preserve His Scriptures!!!
And with that I also believe that a date of 150-180AD for closing the Canon (66 Books) of Scripture is not far fetched!
The last Inspired writing was 95-96AD (sorry Poop) so in 85 years it is possible for the early Churches to have completed It!!!
The bible came to us by debate? What the hell are you on about? The bible came from God through his servants by INSPIRATION, NOT DEBATE.
From the books you are reading, and the way you talk..its obvious you have an anti-christ agenda. You are CLEARLY not a grounded christian, because you are being tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine.
Please explain to me why a holy-ghost filled child of God will read and regurgitate information in a book written by an agnostic?!
Also, please stop coming on here attempting argue with me on things that are irrefutable. The Bible DID come into being through processes of debate. Please study canonization and the history of the Bible.
Stop wasting my time.
Like I said in the video, the Bible that you rely on today came about by process of debate. That is a historical fact that cannot be disputed. And it is very much the word of men, because men are responsible for many of the errors.
where he says that were not saved by the bible but by Jesus Christ.....hmmmmmm.... in John 1:1 talks about God being the Word.....
no1TruthTeller... i totally agree with you that this message is FALSE
Do you believe there is error in the Word of God?