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Mishap of B-52 at Fairchild Air Force Base Washington

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Please try to keep from using vulgarities and profanity. I feel we can make our points without using profanity. I have no problem with calling the pilot a jerk, however remember there can be children viewing this thread so try to keep suitable for public. July-7-2007
As far as I know is the first time this much of the video has been made readily available to the GP when I posted this on Youtube. ;)
More footage then I have seen on the net on this subject. Mishap 24 June 1994, a B-52H of the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash
In this photograph you can see what is apparently an ejection hatch.
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/210/b52crsh2cf5.jpg
This photograph was shot in mid-impact with the ground.
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/945/b52crash3rj9.jpg
The photographs were shot in-between the time frame that there was apparently a plasma ball from the wing clipping power lines.
US air show standards are the highest, but this was a case of systemic disregard for safety. Since this crash, the bar has been set higher more enforcement and awareness.
It bothers me to see some other counties still have very poor safety at major air shows. The former soviet block has had several crashes that I would consider safety neglect a factor, if not the cause.
Aerobatics should not be done over crowds. Aerobatics should be kept in a safe margin away from the crowd and to some extent the flight line. I even frown on extremely low passes over crowds.
Pilots and management/command should have restraint from flying planes to extreme limits at air shows. A margin / buffer zone should be between the aerobatic area and the crowd.
The B-52 was just practicing; if he had crashed in a crowd at an air show the loss of life would be high. The B-52 did some low high speed passes over personnel area and flight line; if there was a failure, he could have possibly destroyed all the aircraft on the flight line (and equipment, buildings) or and killed a lot more personnel.
I love aircraft and air shows and the US. I hate to see a bunch more rules, I would prefer pilots and people in charge do there best to keep things safe with knowledge, reasonable action.
I think the US and many other countries have learned from this accident to take air show safety more rationally. However, a few air shows like to try to out perform other air shows with unsafe flashy showboat shows.
When you push the limits you tend to exponentially increase the risks. If a pilot makes a goof or if there is a failure, with buffer zones the risk to the crowd can be minimized.
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On 24 June 1994, a B-52H of the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing at Fairchild Air Force Base (AFB), Wash., crashed while preparing to land after practicing maneuvers for an air show, killing all four crewmen. The pilot in command had over a long period of time demonstrated a disregard for Air Force flying rules and regulations, and this was known by the senior commanders in the wing. No appropriate action had been taken to discipline him or rein in his noncompliant behavior.
More info at
http://s92270093.onlinehome.us/CRM-Devel/resources/paper/darkblue/darkblue.htm
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=14464006
In my opinion, I would consider this pilot a superb "stick and rudder" pilot. However there is more to being a pilot and flight then "stick and rudder", in my opinion he was very poor in some aspects of safety.
It's like a football player that is in excellent physical condition and physical ability, but ignores strategy and team effort. There is more to being a pilot than one aspect, just as there is more to being an athlete then a single aspect.
Other good videos long videos of the same plane and pilot. Courtesy of jescates
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UJb08ZzejAA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hWUgDLFokNw

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From wikipedia ... ( 2 weeks ago by tannalv)
From wikipedia regarding this accident, at 1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash:
(heh, doesn't sound fun at all)
to low to steep of ... ( 2 weeks ago by mikebyrd42069)
to low to steep of turn and to slow
there are planes ... ( 2 weeks ago by rnmultimedia)
there are planes for show- and there are planes that are for a purpose - having a B-52 at an air show and have it do those low passes is asking for trouble- thats like having a double decker bus on the indie 500... its pointless- i mean ok one pass at reasonable height.... but that crazy stuff--- unless its actual maneuvers which shouldnt be shown at an air show anyway.... but that was an accident waiting to happen- thanks for showig us what led up to that unfortunate accident tho...
Jeez, who was at ... ( 2 weeks ago by richintalent)
Jeez, who was at the controls, Yakko, Wakko and Dot from 'Animaniacs'?
the pilot ... ( 2 weeks ago by raptoromilda)
the pilot miscalculate their elevation
This pilot was ... ( 1 week ago by AxelofBavaria)
This pilot was known for his weak ego and open disregard of Air Force rules - and yet no action was taken against him. Three crew members and a B-52 died because of this neglect.
B 52s are supposed ... ( 1 week ago by dandoosh90)
B 52s are supposed to come in on the deck. Its not like a bus at the indie 500, its like a race car at the indie 500. the b 52 is supposed to be either above 10000 feet or below 1000. those are its defenses against anti air systems and opposig fighters.
oh my good, i did ... ( 1 week ago by quarkser)
oh my good, i did see this vid a lot of times now, but just read in wiki what they did and why it happend. its awful to start the internet and see people die!
unreal ( 1 week ago by opel47)
unreal
This is a famous ... ( 1 week ago by JPDworkin)
This is a famous case in the Air Force - the pilot was a known hot-dogger that many crewman refused to fly with. It's considered a cas study in bad command and management. The co-pilot was on his final flight - his whole family was there to see this.
Whenever one ... ( 1 week ago by Tiggerpilot)
Whenever one overbanks any airplane at low altitude you have a stall...& the party is over.
i use to live at ... ( 1 week ago by greengaurd)
i use to live at fairchild now they have tanker aircraft not bombers...
You can't ... ( 1 week ago by agentfazexx)
You can't miscalculate elevation. You have an altimeter bud.
As impressive as ... ( 1 week ago by tubevoyr)
As impressive as the B-52 is and as powerful as it is. It just does not have the performance to fly a 250ft AGL profile witout carrying some significant speed. Once the aircraft went past 90* it lost lift and there was just not enough power to over come the loss of lift.
Wrong dandoosh, the ... ( 1 week ago by imnazhole)
Wrong dandoosh, the B-52 is a high altitude bomber and has internal electronic jamming countermeasures along with chaff for it's defense.
Imnazhole: I think ... ( 1 week ago by ATFSCrash)
Imnazhole: I think you and dandoosh are right (or wrong/depending on the perspective). Though I think the B-52 was mainly conceived as a high-altitude bomber, it now is designed for both high or low altitude missions. The thing has a huge radar signature, so to have a chance at penetrating some high threat environments; they sometimes practice terrain masking. But still that's no excuse for this type of flying at an air show.
As you say tubevoyr ... ( 2 days ago by jumpfer)
As you say tubevoyr, the pilot tried to high an angle and the whole plane slipped sideways. OK at 25,000ft but game over at 250ft.
I always am nervous at airshows as too many of the pilots are in the "Lets see what this baby will do" zone. The pilot of this B52 was in that zone as this tight a turn would not have been in his prearranged display.
Sad, very sad.
saw this video at a ... ( 2 days ago by bbwbb2)
saw this video at a wings saftey seminar, One of the stories, is that one of the crew did not want to fly that day because of the pilots rep. so his supervisor took his place, all the way to the ground. Sad!!
Just before the ... ( 2 days ago by Aussiephil99)
Just before the crash you can see he has full opposite aileron in to roll right......but nothing is happening because he's already stalled
'agebtfazex'...oh ... ( 1 day ago by Aussiephil99)
'agebtfazex'...oh yes you can miscalculate elevation. Altimeters measure height above mean sea level not ground level. It's the pilots responsibility to know the elevation of the ground he is flying over. In other words if the elevation of the airport is 1000ft and he wants to fly 1000ft above it he need to be at 2000ft on his altimeter. This is why aircraft sometimes fly into mountains
Aussiephil99 " ... ( 12 hours ago by ATFSCrash)
Aussiephil99 "Altimeters measure height above mean sea level not ground level"
That's not always true, particularly in aviation. The standard aviation altimeter the zero can be set so that the zero is sea level or home ground-level.
Aussiephil99 There ... ( 12 hours ago by ATFSCrash)
Aussiephil99 There is also the radar altimeter that measures the distance to the earth and is always calibrated that the Earth is zero. Sometimes the radar altimeter's are not accurate at extreme attitudes like in this video.
It's clear that the pilot did not misjudge the altitude. It's clear that the pilot over banked the aircraft and deeply stalled the aircraft.
Aussiephil99: The ... ( 12 hours ago by ATFSCrash)
Aussiephil99: The altitude is not the main issue, however it is a close second or third. The severity that he banked at was not reasonable/safe for this aircraft. If he was at 10,000 feet when he stalled, he might have been able to recover. As deep as the stall was, he might not of, There have been bombers (World War II/B-17 etc) that have stalled that have ripped apart from excessive speed before they could recover.
Yep, thanks for ... ( 11 hours ago by Aussiephil99)
Yep, thanks for that. I'm a flying instructor......altimeters are invariably set to QNH or area QNH....which would give height above sea level. Hardly ever would it be set to QFE which would give height above ground level.......only used maybe if doing circuits......and even then rarely. He'd have needed alot of height to recover being such a large aircraft.



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