SUTHERLAND HORNE PAVAROTTI -- Norma Trio part 1

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SUTHERLAND HORNE PAVAROTTI -- Norma Trio part 1

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Joan Sutherland, Marilyn Horne, and Luciano Pavarotti perform the trio from "Norma"
New York City Opera Orchestra
Conducted by Richard Bonynge
Lincoln Center 1981

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Sutherland / Pavarotti - Lucia	Caballé and Horne sing Rossini	Nessun Dorma (Pavarotti, NY 1980)

Sutherland / Pavarotti - Lucia	Caballé and Horne sing Rossini	Nessun Dorma (Pavarotti, NY 1980)

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It is respectful ... ( 11 months ago by VivaMariaCallas)

It is respectful for me to say that each of them have had better performances, for each of them did have much better performances than the ones here, both vocally and dramatically.
And, no, I don't have a time machine, but it is known knowledge that their voices were definitely not flawless. Through reviews, one learns that both didn't have perfectly even voices throughout the range (and Pasta even sang flat and didn't have a 'pure voice').

I missing drama en ... ( 11 months ago by Rossalita)

I missing drama en expression and feeling! sorry but I dont like it.

they transformed ... ( 11 months ago by Lohengrin)

they transformed the most drammatic trio into what exactly i cannot quit understand... a beautiful walk in the gardens? This is unbelievably wrong from a drammatic point of view. These chars are supposed to be torn from agony...

Read the ... ( 11 months ago by Lohengrin)

Read the descriptions of Pasta's Voice by Stendhal: "...a voice of three uneven registers, with a dark choked sound being able to convey enormous amounts of the most intense feelings of agony and stress..." Bellini never wrote for beautiful voices. Pasta was his Goddess and her voice had nothing to do with Sutherland's.

Bellini never ... ( 11 months ago by Lohengrin)

Bellini never required a beautiful voice to sing bel canto. Giudita Pasta had a voice that was never characterised as beautiful but with three uneven registers, dark choked sound and enormous ability to convey emotions= NOT THE VOICE OF SUTHERLAND.

I don't understand ... ( 11 months ago by zacharybr)

I don't understand why the voices need to sound "uneven and choked" to convey drama and emotion. There are many other ways to convey despair and agony. Maybe the role was written for a woman who wasn't a very good singer, but that doesn't mean that everyone who sings Norma must sing that way. I'm not Bellini, and I know I wouldn't like Pasta and I certainly don't like Callas.

Very interesting ... ( 11 months ago by Lohengrin)

Very interesting question... Two replies: 1. Sutherland never managed to produce even the slightest emotion through her beautiful singing-we are discussing a singing so souless that makes you wonder if there was a human underneath singing 2. from a philosophical point of view: is Beauty the medium of Emotion? I dont think so. And by the way, Pasta was a FANTASTIC singer according to Bellini's opinion.

It's an ... ( 11 months ago by spsp2sp3sp3dsp3d2)

It's an exaggeration to say that Sutherland never conveyed any emotion. Maybe she didn't make the same sounds as your favorite singer, but there is emotion in her voice. Sutherland tried to convey sadness and despair without making it sound as though she had lost control of her voice in places.

I maintain that the ... ( 11 months ago by VivaMariaCallas)

I maintain that the young Sutherland did in fact express a lot of emotion- not through colouring like Callas, but through extremely attentive phrasing and musicality. Then the mannerisms/bad habits crept in....

i admit this isnt ... ( 10 months ago by Sono1Tenore)

i admit this isnt their best performance, but these three are three of the greatest in their own voice type. respect that. one faulty performance doesnt make the artist, their life style as musicians does.

well.. i guess that ... ( 10 months ago by raymzi)

well.. i guess that callas fans dont like joan's version of the trio.. cant do anything about that. i..for one..love both versions...
my take:
joan brings the gentle and melancholic versions of the characters while callas brings the dark and diabolical version...
totally different..

just to say callas ... ( 9 months ago by tez601)

just to say callas was the best

It is known that ... ( 5 months ago by menukjau)

It is known that Sutherland was much better than Callas, only reason callas was famous because of her high profile affair with Onassis. Anyone at Covent Garden will say that Sutherland was the best performer they ever had on stage.

Is that so? Thanks ... ( 4 months ago by AlFaraci)

Is that so? Thanks for the clarification menukjau. I may have been going mistakingly somewhere else all these years.

Callas was ... ( 4 months ago by Yoni89)

Callas was extremely famous far before she even met Onassis, learn your facts- she was famous for her booming high soprano voice. The strength of a lower voice with the range of a higher voice.

oh please that's a ... ( 4 months ago by wepopalot)

oh please that's a bit dramatic don't you think. She was not "extremely famous" before she met Meneghini. She met her future husband in Italy after leaving New York because it was so loaded with singers from Italy at that time the competition was so heavy she couldn't get consistant work. I do agree that her voice was incredible, at least to my ears but, her technique was always suspect among classical purest.

I never said she ... ( 4 months ago by Yoni89)

I never said she was EXTREMELY famous before Meneghini I said she was extremely famous before Onassis. ;)

sorry your right, u ... ( 4 months ago by wepopalot)

sorry your right, u did say Onassis. May I'm the one who is a bit dramatic, yes. :p

sometimes i wonder ... ( 2 months ago by apfelsnutz)

sometimes i wonder what you people are listening to, when you hear this music. belcanto-bellini,is a period approach to opera for the well heeled afficianato. it can only be judged on a personal level, with your whole soul involved in the totality of the experience. spoken by a musician who has sat in the pit for years, and experienced it all "live" many times...just enjoy bellini for what it is...belcanto...

it's meaningless to ... ( 2 months ago by ramphisy)

it's meaningless to compare Callas and Sutherland, both had magnificent voices and had won the world wide reputation!

My attitude--IT's ... ( 2 months ago by 876234ABC)

My attitude--IT's ALL GOOD!!!!!!!!!
The "compare and contrast" crowd who put down one to elevate the other are timewasters.
You need a variety of voices and styles IN ORDER TO COMPARE.
If they were all the same, it would be very dull indeed, and, well, SUCK.
It's ALL GOOD, again I say!

I feel like Horne ... ( 3 weeks ago by Webarton)

I feel like Horne has the best technique out of the 3 lol. Definitely better than Sutherland.

Marilyn Horne is ... ( 3 weeks ago by EmilyGreene1984)

Marilyn Horne is using the same techinque as Joan Sutherland is. The Bel Canto techinque. The problem may be that Joan Sutherland was known to not be as clear in her phrasing of the words themselves and that her voice is so immense - being a dramatic coloratura soprano. While Marilyn Horne was, ironically, formerly a soprano whose voice slipped naturally into a mezzo-soprano range.

In che lingua sta ... ( 2 days ago by michelangelobo)

In che lingua sta cantando la Sutherland?

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SUTHERLAND HORNE PAVAROTTI -- Norma Trio part 1