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The Milton Friedman Choir singing about Friedman's definiton of a corporation. This clip can be found in the DVD special features section of The Corporation.

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"Fascism is ... ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

"Fascism is absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere. The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporate, social, and educational institutions,and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organised in their respective associations, circulate within the State."
Mussolini

If you can't be ... ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

If you can't be convincing, stay polite.

"nazi economy was ... ( 2 months ago by KafkaCrow)

"nazi economy was entirely controlled by the german state."
Utter bullshit. Hitler had his "socialist" components in the Nazi party killed so that he could cuddle up to big business. And corporations and government are still in bed with each other today, something which Friedman and the other socially blind intellectual lightweights prefer(ed) to ignore. Don't be so fucking naive.

yep. german state ... ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

yep. german state was controlling production and prices. it doesn't mean some capitalist industries were not happy to produce what german state needed. corporatism is a form of socialism, the connivence of some political and economical interests at the detriment of others.
free market means independant from political power. the separation of economics and politics. the opposite of socialism. that's why i don't support socialism but free market.

Socialism is ... ( 2 months ago by KafkaCrow)

Socialism is defined as: a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. The state does not = community.
". the separation of economics and politics"
That's why I'm not a capitalist. You have no (or at best very little) say in how the economy works. I mean, socialists want workplace democracy. You spend your entire life working for business -why?

What about ... ( 2 months ago by KafkaCrow)

What about Pinochet's Chile, then? Underwent a "miracle" that involved mass murder and brutal oppression. But still "free" because the free market was allowed to operate. You people are such fucking morons.

Don't forget to ... ( 2 months ago by Incendiarismm)

Don't forget to mention that Hitler was outright hostile to communists and socialists and even supported the fascist Franco in the spanish civil war. The same could be said of Mussolini.
Nationalization and controlled markets does not equal socialism, contrary to the notions of some.

Array ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

>The state does not = community.
Who is the community? Where do we meet her?
How does she know what my needs and capabilities are? How does she know what is the best way to fulfill my needs?>socialists want workplace democracy.
democracy=law of the majority=law of the strongest>You spend your entire life working for business -why?
I wish. So far I've been jobless thanks to the many socialist laws which rules my country.

Chilean army was ... ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

Chilean army was asked by the Chilean parliament to intervene because Allende was not respecting the constitution.So even from a democratic point of view, the coup d'état was perfectly justified.
In the first few months, the military power had a interventionist, statist, protectionist policy that you wouldn't deny. It appeared to be a big disaster and they decided to apply chicago views to reduce inflation. It worked. Now people of Chile are among the less miserable in South America.

Moreover Friedman ... ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

Moreover Friedman never supported the pinochet political regime. He thought that greater economic freedom would lead to greater political freedom. It appeared he was right.
Friedman also gave his views to the Chinese government. I guess it makes him a communist.

I've spent most of ... ( 2 months ago by BRYAN351)

I've spent most of my life working for myself, and love it. Could I do that in a socialist system? Fuck no.
By the way, Webster defines SOCIALISM as: "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or GOVERNMENTAL ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods".
COMMUNISM is defined as: "a: theory advocating elimination of private property b: a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed."

"Allende was not ... ( 2 months ago by KafkaCrow)

"Allende was not respecting the constitution"
Oh, and that's surely the only reason why the coup occurred. The constitution of a country is not always democratic; Allende was democratically elected and had mass support. That's democracy; if you disagree with it you're nothing more than a fascist.

Allende was elected ... ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

Allende was elected with less than 40% of the votes, this is not what i call "mass support". He had to make a pact with christian democrats to be president. He didn't respect this pact nor the constitution according to the parliament freshly elected by the chilean people 6 months before the coup d'Etat. Anyway, marxists have never pretended to be democrats so I don't understand why you want to conciliate both.
"If you don't agree with me you're a fascist". God, grow up.

You don´t seem to ... ( 2 months ago by chutoduro)

You don´t seem to know a damn thing about what happened in Chile.
People like you feed the ignorance of the world, and by doing that you make it a little bit more easy for the extreme capitalists to fuck everyone up......
Including you!
exept if you are a multimillionare-corporate owning-capitalist-brat.

Uh, Socialism by ... ( 2 months ago by beepandbop)

Uh, Socialism by definition is a nationalization of private industries. That's exactly what Hitler did. The Nazi party wasn't called the "The National Workers Socialist Party" for nothing.

Read Trotsky's ... ( 2 months ago by Incendiarismm)

Read Trotsky's pamphlet called Fascism: What it is and how to fight it. Germany was not socialist, and using what you just said I can assure you that small businesses were allowed to conduct themselves the way they did before the nazis arose to power.

Ok, for one thing: ... ( 2 months ago by beepandbop)

Ok, for one thing: Trotsky was a puppet of Stalin, Stalin and Hitler were in a sort of "ideaological" competition. That is, they had the same ideas but different ideological terms. Both countries were government controlled, it's just Germany's ethos was that of the white man, while Russia's was the Worker. Both countries' major capital was controlled by the government.
The second point is this: Trotsky is naturally going to slate Fascism with capitalism. It's typical communist jargon.

Array ( 2 months ago by jaar2001)

blablabla
you can repeat "i'm right and you're wrong" as much as you want, you don't prove anything. Facts are more obstinate than you.

Why would he agree ... ( 1 month ago by MetaMorphy)

Why would he agree to introduce this out of context dribble?

It very sad he died ... ( 1 month ago by khallaghi)

It very sad he died before his idea, today we can see result of his theory . Economic collapse

Socialism by ... ( 1 week ago by figocooldude)

Socialism by definition is colective ownership of the means of production by those who work. Don't get confused kid, one thing is the state capitalism of th USSR and another thing is socialism. Can it be accomplished, thats another story.

"State Capitalism" ... ( 1 week ago by beepandbop)

"State Capitalism" was another term introduced by Trotsky to label his rival Stalin and his successors. Again, Trotsky and the communists were a bunch of thugs, and Trotsky was trying to establish himself as "The True Communist."
Sure they're two separate things, State Capitalism is really an oxymoron coined by a moron.

Maybe you need to ... ( 1 week ago by beepandbop)

Maybe you need to grow up, stop calling names, do a little studying and realize what Chile experienced was not Capitalism, but an attempt at it. It's like saying Perestroika was extreme capitalism, and that got Russia in the shithole. People point at that and say "See? Capitalism is bad." However, that wasn't free market trading by an measure.

Well actually state ... ( 1 week ago by figocooldude)

Well actually state capitalism applies to all marxist, I haven't read much about Trotsky, but you seem to know him quite well. Maybe he might of coined the term, but in other fields state capitalism is what marxism aim for, the idea of state capitalism exists before Trostky, the anarchist like Bakunin already had the idea behind that term.

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